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>Cripes, this GROUP has trouble agreeing what looping "is"... I'm not sure about everyone here of course, but given the quasi-organic nature of the varied methods of Loop Processes we use, it may become us less to discuss what it 'is' than to investigate and our methods of using it. I suspect that since there are so many ways and uses of looping represented here, most of us hesitate to broadly define the Process, lest we enforce some potentially unsuitable standard upon someone with no use for it whatsoever. Some recent evidences of this consideration for each other's "thing", would include the spirited discussion on "looping vs. techno-slavery" we all seemed to survive. :) Generally I find that, in the organic nature of looping process, there are enough elements of true or apparent chaos to make things interesting, but this in itself does not mean that all my work must follow this paradigm. Sometimes I like a good raga-like drone that goes on for hours and hours. I think that, with the exception of repeated performance of works some might be coming just to see/hear, the piece takes on an I-Ching type of quality, that reflects something in me at the time of execution. This opens a can of even more interesting worms in terms of the nature of performance that should best be left for a less-complex discussion, but I find that, the more I become transparent - that is, without preconception - to the piece, and whatever it is of myself that goes into it, the more interesting it seems to others. So it's a multi-faceted appeal for me, and apparently for others, who for some reason I've not investigated, enjoy watching the pieces being created live. :) And, in many ways, a frigging Gift Horse of monumental proporttons, whose dental work I'm not sure I care to observe too closely. Stephen EarthLight Studios * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios