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I think Oberheim is out, Gibson is in.... After a few phone calls, I ended up getting a email from Pat Murphy pmurphy@gibson.com He we was quite helpful in helping me update the software in my older EDP to version 5.0. __ _/\_ / \___/ \______ \ Andy Wolpert \__ | Sonic Solutions \ / awolpert@sonic.com / | (415) 893-8043 / \___ __ ___/ \__/ \_____/