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Either of you Boulderites familiar with a synthist named Derek Van Scoten or a Stick player named Steve Hahn? I'm told they're both based in the Boulder area and have heard nothing but good things about them. I'd love to meet up with both of you (or anyone else in the Denver/Boulder area) in the near future. Because my band and my equipment have limitations, I'm not doing a whole lot of looping in our shows. A general question for everyone is.... If your collaborators are not improv based and you're working with "standard" song structures, how do you integrate loops? Intros and Finales are the most natural places, but I'm interested in blurring the lines. Thanks, Robert dERiSiOn _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]