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Chers amis This is the way to wake up those sometimes to sleepy loops I'm using a Waldorf 4 pole filter box which is in short an analog synth without the sound generating part vco (thats the stage you hit when you use those audio inputs in the moog or any good analog synth) what's left is a vca, vcf, envellopes, lfo, panner, and a lot of modulation source and targets.. my use of it is mostly by preparing different types of modulation and triggers midi controler loops that i finally feed to a old alesis mmt 8 sequencer some descriptions (heres my global english try ) -16/th note choping of my playing (chords, finger picking, E bow....) with a random pan position of every 16th note (1 to 4 bars cycles) gives a great gamelan type music when you play repetitive material. -Random medium resonated filter rythms (you can even ask your drummer to create the grooves) sounds like a sequenced phaser -Sequenced wha wha (ala Zappa _ship ahoy_ on the shut up and play your guitar album) -Filter sweeps over x bars (remember you're playing locked to the sequencer) stop talking about your secrets says my gilfriend over my shoulder ;-) A+ Claude