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I put this tentatively since I KNOW I will hate myself in the morning. The Echoplex is the king of loopers, but the direction I'm moving in makes my EDP seem like way overkill. May I be forgiven.... EDP with 198 sec. memory and latest software upgrade. Will include a DIY foot controller which I believe is virtually identical to the Oberheim in function and size, housed in a tough 1/8 inch thick aluminum channel; plastic switches (like the Obie?), so watch the Doc Martens.... Has the invaluable input sensitivity mod outlined in the Looper's Delight pages. Has lived in my home rack only, like new; no original box, though. $575 plus $25 COD FedEx. Would prefer a New Yorker to cut the shipping hassle. Also, still have my MidiVerb 4: $199 plus $20 shipping. David Myers