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I was shown how by some very helpful kind souls. First record your wav at 32khz not 44.If you have Cool Edit or some other program normalize it,noise reduce it ,etc.I have provided some urls I hope. 1.) Create your Real Audio file - for this example it is called YOURSONG.ra The same file can be used for both streaming and downloading. 2.) Create a text file called YOURSONG.ram,first it's a .txt,then change the name to .ram,it will then get a ra icon. 3.) the text file should contain ONLY ONE LINE which points to the physical location of your Real Audio file. In your case it is probably: http://your location of the file/YOURSONG.ra,this is the line in you ram file called yoursong.ram 4.) Upload the files to your server. I know it obvious, but the first time you forget... 5.) In your HTML code: To stream: <A HREF="http://your location of the file/YOURSONG.ram">THIS IS THE TEXT THAT IS CLICKED FOR STREAMING</A> To Download: <A HREF="http://your location of the ra/YOURSONG.ra">THIS IS THE TEXT THAT IS CLICKED FOR DOWNLOADING</A> All of this in more technical terms is located at: http://www.real.com/create/ccguide/config.html you can get the free Real Audio encoder at http://www.real.com/encoder/index.html mp3's sound a lot better but they are many times bigger than ra's,if you do the proper pre processing using somthing like cool edit ra's can sound passable.The main thing is record or convert you song to 32 khz,not 44 otherwise audio artifacts can occur.If you have any further questions,don't hesitate to ask. Jeff Duke sr.,TecBabLabs ;http://members.tripod.com/~dukesr/index.html ANET wrote: > If you know how to do real audio and would like to send me How to >E-mail, I'll > include it on the 3rdcd page. > > Thanks; > John Peters > > <html> > <a> href="http://members.aol.com/anet/3rdcd.html">3rd CD project </a> > </html>