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Thanks to Bret for these tips from some 10 days back--finally got some time free & picked up a couple "normal" CDRs for testing. I'll be durned--works like a charm. Of course you must record the entire disc & finalize it before the machine is shut down, but still, at a price as low as 99 cents for 74 minutes of digital recording, can this be beat? Anyone out there shopping for a DAT machine, think this over. How much do you pay for a 74 min. DAT tape? And can you jump to tracks instantaneously? Suffered from tape dropout? The CDR870 is cheaper than pretty much *any* DAT machine I know of, and--for me--being able to play the disc on any CD player is a BIG plus. Only problem: SCMS! Of course want to put my freshly-recorded CDR into my CD deck and make copies. Does anyone know of a good source for a SCMS stripper? In NYC, Manny's didn't know what I was talking about and Sam Ash Pro Audio just put me on hold for about an hour. I know there are kits around for under $100, but my soldering hand is exhausted & I've heard a ready-to-go stripper might be $200.... I told my girlfriend I was looking for a scum stripper and she thought it had something to do with my bathroom. More like she was *hoping* it had something to do with it.... >Loopsters, >David Myers asked where to find a good price on Audio CDr blanks for >use with the Phillips 870 CD recorder. > >I can't help you with the Audio CDr blanks, but you may not have heard >that there is a trick you can use in order to record with the Phillips >870 using data CDr blanks (the cheap ones). > >I learned about this via the Roland VS-880 mailing list. Some of the >folks there have the Phillips 870 and have successfully used this trick. > >The difference in the Audio CDr blank and the data CDr blanks is that >the Audio discs have information written to them that tells the 870 >(or similar Pioneer consumer CD recorders PD04, PD05) that the disc is >a Consumer disc (and tariffs were paid). Without that data, it will >not allow you to enter record mode. > >I don't have a CD recorder, so what I tell you now is based on my >reading others accounts, and leveraged from a similar trick my kids >use to play Japanese Playstation CD roms in an American Playstation. > >You will need an Audio CD blank of the same capacity (time) as the >Data CD blank you want to record to. > >1. Put the Consumer blank into the recorder. >2. It will read the identification information, and will indicate you >can record. >3. Reach under the CD tray door and slide the tray open (manually, do >not use the tray open button). >4. Remove the Consumer CD blank >5. Place the Data CD blank on the tray >6. Manually close the tray completely >7. Record >8. Do not remove the CD until you finalize it, or it will not play. >You cannot remove it, and reinsert it later to record. > >Again, this is from others accounts, I cannot tell you the nuances of >this trick. Others say it is easy, works, and has not harmed their >recorders. Proceed at your own risk. > >The only caveat I have heard regarding this procedure has to do with >calibration. When a blank disk is inserted into a stand alone CD >recorder, the recorder performs a calibration on the blank. This >calibration consists of writing and reading a reserved area of the >blank in order to determine the optimal laser intensity for that exact >disc. This is done because there is unit to unit and manufacturer to >manufacturer variations in the CD blanks' dye layer. The cal insure >the holes burned in the dye layer will be of the correct size (depth?) >in order to be read later without error. Since this trick requires >you swap discs AFTER the calibration, there is some risk the burn will >not be optimized to the proper level for the second (actual record) >disc. So far, anecdotal information says this has not been a problem. > >Again, proceed at your own risk. >See >http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?83 >for stereophiles article on 'CD Recorder's Dirty Little Secret'. > >bret > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com