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Todd: The Philips CDR870, for example, is for audio recording only; you can't backup computer data with it. But you can record analog or digital sound without ever turning on a computer, as easily as recording a cassette. The catch is that, as a protection device, you are not allowed to use the cheaper CDRs sold for data--the machine will reject them. It seems the "audio" or "consumer" CDR discs sold are identical to the cheap kind, but have a code which the machine recognizes. For this, the industry charges (typically) an extra FIVE DOLLARS on top of the usual two bucks (what I paid for a single disc at J & R) for a damned disc, supposedly to pay people like Janet Jackson and Yanni because it's assumed we're copying their stuff. Who ever heard of a 250% tax, for god's sake?? >I don't understand what all the fuss is regarding CD blanks used for >data versus used for audio. At the CompUSA I go to I buy a pack of >5 Verbatim, TDK or Maxell for around $21 or so and they work fine. > >No special procedures are needed to make the CD recorder understand >that I'm recording audio or data to them - either works fine. > >The discs play in any CD player I care to try them in and it's a nice >way to create a limited run of discs for a given project (the most >current would be the Crash - Gods of Outstate Radio project - I'll >probably do 20 or so before I'm done with that run). > >CD-R discs make a great way of backing up a hard disc, as well. > >-Todd.