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I'd love to try playing with some of this 3D-MIDI stuff, but I've already got more things going on than I can handle. I've done some static 3D renderings, even placed in a contest in a CAD magazine, but nothing with motion. Years ago, I used to play with primitive computer images, done on my old Atari, soundtracked with Talking Heads, etc. to a VCR. As I said it was pretty primitive, by today's standards, but it was fun. If any of the rest of you do get into some of this stuff, I'd love to hear about it. BTW, I did scan the article, it's about 740K zipped up, if anyone else wants to read it. Stew