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>(The helicopter flies RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD!!!!....ooooo...) Unfortunately 5.1 surround does not allow for a ceiling mounted speaker. I suppose you could approximate it by with careful application of a head transfer function adding some of the sound out of phase into the sub-woofer. __ _/\_ / \___/ \______ \ Andy Wolpert \__ | Sonic Solutions \ / awolpert@sonic.com / | (415) 893-8043 / \___ __ ___/ \__/ \_____/