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> One sound that comes to mind is the lousy reverb in my Zoom 9002. Its >like a spring that goes "boing" but the "boing" is too perfect to be a >spring. Here is a tip to anyone with crappy reverb machines: Try putting it on a long decay-setting and place it IN FRONT of a nasty Fuzzbox. The reslulting guitartone sounds like its on fire!!!!! Picture an F-16 goin down , with smoke coming out of both engines. I love this sound , particulary with a chorus or phaser wich adds "fuel to the fire". Im shure all of you have some ideas how to get crappy sounds from crappy gear- lets hear it! Yours , Thomas W (my favourite crapmachine is the Alesis midiverb and midifex. These babies are all over the place for sale and noone wants them. I`m quite a collector! so you Klein ppl can all kiss my.......:-) )