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I just saw Victor Wooten (bassist with Bela Fleck and Flecktones) playing solo at a record store in Boulder. He mentioned that he does loops now. I asked what he used and he said he has a Jamman and an Echoplex DP. I mentioned this mailing list and he asked that I let the Gibson and Lexicon folks here know that he uses their loopers. Today he played solo with no loop machine. Tomorrow, he will play at the Fox Theater in Boulder using loops, and a drummer. I recorded his solo playing today, and plan to record the duo at the Fox tomorrow. Victor was very friendly, and upbeat, encouraging the small crowd to ask questions. His playing today involved playing bass lines, topped with fretted melodies or chords, both played with either harmonics or finger tapping using his right hand. Often the bass lines were done with hammering on, so his right hand was free to play the melody or chords. Touches of percussive popping were interspersed as well. Victor spoke about technique vs. musicality, stressing the importance of listening, while playing, rather than playing using certain technique "just because you can". He said that this listening applies both in groups and when playing solo, to listen to himself as the music is created. Victor said that music is like cake. The icing is nice, when thinly put on top, but by itself it gets old fast. The cake underneath is the substance of the music, and can be enjoyed with or without the icing. The playing can be simple, and still have musical value that endures the test of time. The fanciest technique, without underlying substance, grows tiresome quickly. While playing he obviously took chances, occasionally making a mistake at the extremes, then recovering with grace and sometimes humor. He made his basses sing. bret _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com