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One thing I have noticed is that when people playing avant garde music turn up levels, in a coffeehaus, it is the best interest to be having people come there who know you. Then you can see if the "rubberneck" syndrome applies to music. Domino theory, etc. At a coffeehaus one goes for any number of reasons, at Starbucks, aka not a coffeehaus, one goes to sit on ones derriere and bring "armchair philosophy" into this Neo-Victorian age. So of course they would like to hear themselves talk, not necessarily each other, and so vicariously "shoot the breeze". If you happen to add more output, than the mundane bright buorgeousie existence of said "venue", i.e., passing above their expressionless yet oh so bright voices, please watch for lumbering bodies out the commode of Starbucks. Tom Waits would say: I pray you pass by or pass down volume mack, donna go dere, dey's a bit narra. Mjh