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The subtle beauty and grace of good ambient music or the power,exactitude and textural wizardry of great avante garde compositions, is for the most part lost on the masses of folks who constitute the available audience for such work. This has always been the case and always will. To redefine the needs of your marketplace to fit your product is your only hope and it's non-existant, much like the emperor's clothes. In his book "The Frontiers of Meaning" Canadian composer/author Charles Rosen says that "understanding" music is really a question of the listener being "comfortable" with it. Any artist who wrestles with an "alternative" material,style, or media does so first and foremost as a personal crusade. The need to bring this work to a public forum as a measure of it's congruency with commerce, is the chief bastardization of all artisitc intent related to the honest evolution of an art form. The availability and functionality of the electronic devices we use to loop are defined by activities and motives,that favor the corporate rational over the artistic whim in the long run (with all due respect to the industry brains,cogs & moguls who populate this list). So the tools of the trade are few and far between, widely varied in capabilities, and mostly not in current production....the listening public doesn't know the difference between a constantly triggered sample or a closed loop, unless you lip synch poorly to it...and you have to figure out how much personal sacrifice (economical,emotional,etc.) you can really stand to make in the pursuit of some esoteric, ethereal, and estranging art form. Whether it's 100,000 plus CD's sold or gig proceeds(tips) for gas, the current public measure of your work is the least of the clues you'll ever get towards it's true validity. Think of what a gratifying experience it'll be for your decendants when you're finally recognized as a pioneer of late 20th century music, your compositions studied, period effects ensembles formed to perorm your works galaxy wide. Meanwhile even the greats "can't give it away", sometimes...is it any wonder why? Bryan(now deflating my shoes & ego)Helm