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So Jon, Have you tried the series/parallel configuration of delay's. I wish I could because I dig the modulation he get's from them. Like on House of Mirrors. And I think maybe the reason he shrugged you off Kim is because you were in a suit and he likes people who are more laid back. And how can one be laid back in a suit. I'm sure he liked the product but it's not STEREO like Allan likes. AND he proabably figured that there are too many people doing looping these days. Jeff Collins -----Original Message----- From: Jon Durant <74074.1316@compuserve.com> To: INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 10:58 AM Subject: Re: holdsworthian delaze >Umm, let's see if I can remember what I encountered one hazy day at the >brewery... > >There were eight (count 'em!) delays, running in parallel, fed through a >stereo mixer. Each delay was set at a different length, with different >modulation rates and different panning across a stereo field. The delays, >as I recall, included two ADA units, two Lex PCM 41s, two Deltatlab >Effectrons, and two other delays of some variety or other. (They may have >been ART) The delay times ranged from about 20ms to around 300 ms. There >were two set at the longer range. > >We painstakingly recreated all of the delay, modulation and panning >setings >in a PCM 80, and A/B'd the two. It wasn't even close to his mammoth rig. >Why? My guess is that all those different delays, with different analog >sections, created something wholly unique, and a single clock-rate chip, >no >matter how advanced, could not duplicate the vibe which was going on. >Alas, >after 45 minutes of tinkering between the two, we bailed for the beer and >a >demonstration of the Fizz-Buster, a device which works remarkably well I >must say. > >Looping is an area in which Mr. H has expressed considerable disinterest. >No great surprise, really. > >Later, >Jon Durant > >