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Last week someone mentioned the "David Torn/Robert Fripp" approach to looping. David pointed out that he didn't actually share an approach to looping with RF and I see his point; on the other hand when people have in the past (and many have) referred to the "DT/RF" approach I've generally understood what they meant. So, to in some way explain what I think we mean when we use the phrase (and to perhaps undo some offence), I think I've taken the DT/RF approach to mean: Take one adventurous improviser; Plug into mondo FX; plug them into a Looper; plug that into more mondo FX. As opposed to the "Bill Frizzell" approach (which started the debate) which is: Take one adventurous improviser; plug into a looper. Does this make sense? Michael Dr. Michael P. Hughes, University of Glasgow, Glasgow, UK G12 8QQ --------------------------------------------------------------- "..man, the road must eventually lead to the whole world. Ain't nowhere else it can go - right?" - Jack Kerouac, "On The Road" --------------------------------------------------------------- www.elec.gla.ac.uk/~pycraft m.hughes@elec.gla.ac.uk