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haha, very funny but please don't send this stuff to the whole list! That's a big netiquette no-no. and yes, I realize I'm becoming a stodgy old fart, no need to let me know. Just think of me as that mean old guy that lived across the street from you when you were growing up. The one that stood there glaring at you and your friends all day and would take your ball away if it went in his yard. That's me. kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 Chromatic Research kflint@chromatic.com http://www.chromatic.com