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Yeah! this is the idea of using feedback as a way to evolve loops, that we were discussing a couple of weeks ago. (and many times before, actually.) The limitation with the boomerang and jamman on this is that you can't set the feedback anywhere you want. You're stuck with the one setting of the boomerang or three (?) on the jamman. Traditional delays always have a knob that lets you set feedback to any level, dynamically. It's a very creative tool for looping. I'm always a bit suprised that many of the newer phrase sampler things don't have it at all. (having that feature was one of the most important things to Matthias when he first designed the echoplex, because he considers it essential for loop based music. He had developed his looping music originally using delays like tc2290 and pcm-42, where this feedback and hold feature was available.) kim >When my main looper was a Digitech RDS-3600, I used a similar technique. >However, instead of a "stack" button, the RDS had a "hold" button. It was >very handy to be able to freeze a loop, thaw and change it, and then >re-freeze it. > >You can do the same thing in the "echo" mode on the JamMan by turning the >feedback setting from 16 (hold) to 15 or lower (fade). > >Evolving loops are much more interesting than static loops. > >Mark Kata >Mark@asisoftware.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> >Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 12:45 PM >Subject: boomerang idea > > >>what i had always thought of as a short-coming of the rang, the way it >>attenuates the original loops, the more you stack loops the first ones >>diminish in volume until they are gone. last nite i was jammin with a >friend >>and we both were going through the rang, i put in some chords and a >little >>bass and a little coloration (accents etc.) and then we played over this >>loopage. by keeping the stack button (input) depressed we were able to >make >>the loop evolve. the original chords would fade then the bass and so on >until >>there was an entire new base loop. whenever it got interesting i would >let >up >>on the stack button and play over the new loop till i wanted to change it >>again. in all, we went for good while (about 10 mins) with a seamless >>continually changeing mass (mess) of sound. ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com