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In a message dated 98-06-08 20:09:33 EDT, you write: << does anyone know if there is any way to modify a 1/4" eight track reel to create tape loops of an significant length. >> If you set the machine on it's back so that the reels are parallel with the table surface, you can take a small mic stand or something to put an extra reel on. That way, you feed the slack of the long loop over the spare third reel and move the support for the third reel away from the tape machine until the tape is tensioned sufficiently. If this makes no sense, give me a buzz and I'll try to explain more clearly - sorry if it's fuzzy, it's almost one in the morning and I'm kinda crosseyed from lack of sleep. good luck. - Bill Crossedout@aol.com