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<P>Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><B><NOBR>Subject:</NOBR></B> <PRE>Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 4 Today's Topics: Re: Remove from list! Please [ LORI <looperanne@earthlink.net> ] unsubscribe [ "Steve Smith" <ssteve@missconet.com ] Re: unsubscribe [ Tom Spaulding <tspauldi@home.com> ] Re: Remove from list! Please [ Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com> ] Re: Folk/Celtic Looping [ Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.co ] Re: Any AXON user loopers out there? [ Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.co ] Re: tape loops [ Crossedout@aol.com ] Re: Remove from list! Please [ Crossedout@aol.com ] Administrivia: Looper's Delight **************** Please send posts to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Don't send them to the digest! To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Loopers-Delight digest version, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check the web page for archives and lots of other goodies! <A HREF="http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html">http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html </A>Your humble list maintainer, Kim Flint kflint@annihilist.com</PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Remove from list! Please</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Mon, 08 Jun 1998 21:28:29 -0400</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>LORI <looperanne@earthlink.net></NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>Tim Fitzsimons wrote: > > Looks like its time for another episode of "irritated list owner's > > unsubscribing diatribe." Enjoy. > > OK, I don't say this very often (or ever), but seems like this is a >good > > time, since I'm now completely sick of spending so much time helping >people > > with this. > > > > Subscribing and Unsubscribing to this mailing list, as with every other > > mailing list on the entire Internet, is *AUTOMATED ON A SERVER*. That >means > > that there is a computer where you send the request, and it handles it > > automatically. There are *NO HUMANS* involved in this process. If you >post > > a message like this to the list, there is no human (or at least no >willing > > human) who will then go and send the commands to the server for you. >You > > have to do it all by yourself! > > > - There is only one way to spell the word "subscribe" and only one way >to > > spell "unsubscribe." Never in my life could I have imagined how >many ways > > people could come up with to misspell these words. If the email has >only > > one word in it, is it really so hard to check that you've spelled it >right? > > - If you get an error from the server from your request mail, don't >resend > > the exact same thing to the server 600 times. Expecting different >results > > from the exact same actions is one definition of insanity. It's >probably > > also an indicator of pure, unadulterated stupidity. Try to be above >that. > > > > - this is really not complicated. Just follow the directions, and you >will > > be fine! > > >>>>> Is this guy angry cause people are jumping ship or what? ><<<<< > > Duh! Maybe he's tired of dimwits who can't follow the most basic > instructions ( and even when they send an email containing these > instructions they can't seem to work out how to actually use them) > If it was anywhere near April 1st I could have let this one slide but > seriously, you must be joking! Why don't you get of your arse, read > the exact same message you sent to the list and do it yourself! > > Somebody UNSUDSCRIDE this person so we can increase our average IQ a > few points! hate to tell ya, but un "sud"^ sc "ride" will get you as far as "unsubscribe" with this list. I've tried it 6 times now. Is this a loop joke? Unsubscribe repeatedly for 64 measures at 120 BPM and you finally get off? I'm killing myself to get away from this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>unsubscribe</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:05:43 -0500</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>"Steve Smith" <ssteve@missconet.com></NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B><Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com></NOBR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>unsubscribe</FONT></FONT> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: unsubscribe</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:18:49 -0500</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>Tom Spaulding <tspauldi@home.com></NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>> Steve Smith wrote: > > unsubscribe Thinning the herd...it's an idea whose time has come. Tom "Un=not,sub=beneath,scribe=writer: "not beneath a writer" Spaulding p.s. I hope this is the drummer from Journey</PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Remove from list! Please</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Mon, 08 Jun 1998 20:20:14 -0700</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>Kim Flint <kflint@chromatic.com></NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>At 09:28 PM 6/8/98 -0400, LORI <looperanne@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Duh! Maybe he's tired of dimwits who can't follow the most basic >> instructions ( and even when they send an email containing these >> instructions they can't seem to work out how to actually use them) >> If it was anywhere near April 1st I could have let this one slide but >> seriously, you must be joking! Why don't you get of your arse, read >> the exact same message you sent to the list and do it yourself! >> >> Somebody UNSUDSCRIDE this person so we can increase our average IQ a >> few points! > > hate to tell ya, but un "sud"^ sc "ride" will get you as far as >"unsubscribe" >with this list. >I've tried it 6 times now. Is this a loop joke? Unsubscribe repeatedly >for 64 >measures at 120 BPM and >you finally get off? I'm killing myself to get away from this >list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No, you haven't come close to following the directions correctly yet! You've done it completely wrong every single time. You've only yourself to blame on that one. The directions have been posted repeatedly in the past couple of weeks, mostly because of you. Why don't you try reading them? In the time you spent typing those exclamation points and wasting our time, you could have been off! I'm with Tim, you are a dimwit. You're also being a jerk, which is why nobody is going to much effort to help you out. Dozens of people have subscribed and unsubscribed without any trouble during the time in which you have been whining to everyone. As most people discover, it's quite easy. Wanna know how they did it? THEY FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS! Gee, where do they get the directions? Here are some ideas for future reference: - keep the directions for unsubscribing you got when you joined the list. *that's why they were sent to you!* - Lost the directions? go to the website for the list and read the directions posted there. - Not sure where the website is? Try looking at the address where the list comes from, and start there. Or, go to a search engine and search for the list name.(Or, try looking at all the replies you got the last few times you posted this crap. Numerous people told you where the site is.) - Don't have web access? Look at the email addresses of the people who post to the list. Gee, I wonder if one of them might know? Instead of bothering the whole list, send somebody private email and POLITELY ask them if they would mind sending you the directions, since you didn't bother to keep them. Chances are, they will be happy to send them to you. - Look at the people who post to the list, and see if one of them happens to be the list maintainer. I bet that person knows! That'll be the one who's email address comes from the same domain as the list, and who has a sig file with all the list info in it, including the subscription address. Send that person a polite mail and ask for help. Usually that person is in a better mood than he is at the moment, and will happily help you out when he gets a chance. Remember, be polite, because all list maintainers quickly develop a low tolerance for assholes and prioritize their demands for attention somewhere below volunteering for experimental medical treatments. - check the recent list postings to see if anyone has posted the unsubscribe instructions. (or in your case, try reading the replies you got last time.) - Do not post to the list until you have exhausted every other possibility. If you must do this, be extremely polite, as you will be annoying hundreds of people, and ask for help. Being an ass will cause them to get pissed enough to publicly ridicule you, as you've likely noticed. You probably will have your feelings hurt and think its unfair, but most everyone else will enjoy it a lot. - Never, under any circumstances, post something like "remove me" directly to a mailing list. This will never work, and may even result in you being on the list forever, depending on how sadistic the list maintainer is feeling that day. All that being said, here are the directions one more time. Please study them very carefully: To unsubscribe, send email with the word unsubscribe in the subject and body of your message, with no signature files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For the digest version, use Loopers-Delight-d-request. Or, check the website, <A HREF="http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html">http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html </A>kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research 408-752-9284 <A HREF="http://www.chromatic.com">http://www.chromatic.com</A></PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Folk/Celtic Looping</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:39:44 -0500</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.com></NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>Thanks for sharing some of your technique with the Celtic looping. Sounds very complex and intriguing to me. As a 3 month old looper, I just loop major, minor 11, and altered chords together in basic fingerstyle riffs, somtimes overdub stuff, then solo over them. It's helping my solo work a lot. I'm just starting to use the next loop function. Give me a shout if you have any tapes, etc, you'd like to swap? Grover t 04:37 PM 6/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not in the U.K., in fact, I'm in Indiana, but I do a bit of >looping >with Celtic songs. I'm a percussionist so I play the melody lines >with >marimba, glockekspiel, etc. rather than fiddle, pennywhistle, etc. >When >I play out, I alternate ambient "soundscape" type stuff with >arrangments >of looped Traditional music (mostly Celtic). So far, much to >my >surprise, nobody's neck has snapped off. It's quite a shock since >the >Celtic stuff is highly structured and the ambient is highly >unstructured. > >I use an Echoplex, sometimes two. > >I've found it very useful to keep notes on what I'm doing. I >tried >writting EVERYTHING out, once. By everything, I mean kind of >an >orchestral score with all instruments and button presses. Too >unwieldly. What seems to work best is some short notes like >the >following: > >---------------------------------------- >Campbell's Farewell to Red Gap > >Looper Setup: > sync = out > beats/8ths = 16 > >Instruments: >soft shakers >clave >chimes >doumbek >triangle/cymbal/shaker >marimba >glockenspiel > >Schema: >Looper actions >REC memory 1 >shaker >REC >OVER >clave >OVER >MULT >chimes >REC >NEXT memory 2 >MULT >doumbek >REC >OVER >triangle/cymbal/shaker >OVER >NEXT memory 3 >MULT >marimba >REC >OVER >glockenspiel >OVER >marimba >NEXT memory 1 >marimba >NEXT memory 2 >marimba >NEXT memory 3 >marimba >NEXT memory 1 >MUTE >---------------------------------------- >I'll write down the melody/harmony fragments seperately sometimes. >I don't PLAY from these notes, I use them when I forget what I did, >usually along with a tape of a performance. > >I find I have to struggle with the structure. The Echoplex >interface >seems ideally suited for improvisational playing and much less so >for >structured playing. > >The overall effect I term "Experimental Tradtional Music". I have >some >ideas I work from but I'm still finding my way in trying to >incorporate >looping with traditional or structured music. > ></PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Any AXON user loopers out there?</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:55:40 -0500</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.com></NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>Gerry P, I use an NGC-77 occasionally, not much for looping. Let me know if Ican be of assistance. Grover At 08:17 PM 6/7/98 -0000, you wrote: >if any AXON users - in particular the AXON 100 - are out there in looper >land, and wouldn't mind offering me some insight into this product, please >email me direct > >thanks >gerry >manda@norlink.net > > ></PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: tape loops</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:34:14 EDT</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>Crossedout@aol.com</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>In a message dated 98-06-08 20:09:33 EDT, you write: << does anyone know if there is any way to modify a 1/4" eight track reel to create tape loops of an significant length. >> If you set the machine on it's back so that the reels are parallel with the table surface, you can take a small mic stand or something to put an extra reel on. That way, you feed the slack of the long loop over the spare third reel and move the support for the third reel away from the tape machine until the tape is tensioned sufficiently. If this makes no sense, give me a buzz and I'll try to explain more clearly - sorry if it's fuzzy, it's almost one in the morning and I'm kinda crosseyed from lack of sleep. good luck. - Bill Crossedout@aol.com</PRE> <HR WIDTH="90%" SIZE=4> <P><NOBR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Remove from list! Please</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>Date: </B>Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:38:01 EDT</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>From: </B>Crossedout@aol.com</NOBR> <BR><NOBR><B>To: </B>Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com</NOBR> <PRE>Kim - bless you for your tireless efforts to help the poor, pathetic, downtrodden souls who don't know an "unsubscribe" e-mail from a hole in the ground and/or their asses. I'm trying to find the Catholic Church's web site - I'm putting you in for Sainthood. - Bill Crossedout@aol.com</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML> </html>