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You will want to contact Paul Dresher or Eric Muhs, both of whom have worked in this way with four-track machines. I see Paul has just signed off for a while, though.... ericmuhs@yahoo.com PaulDresher@compuserve.com >does anyone know if there is any way to modify a 1/4" eight track reel to >create tape loops of an significant length. > >Just a thought for a machine that's collecting dust. > >Thanks in advance for any suggestions.