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Was going to put my Protools digital recording/editing system in the Recycler, then thought I'd put it here first. I've got a 10 month old package: Protools for Mac with Audiomedia III card and 'D-fx' effects plug- in, that I'll sell for $500. This has the latest 4.1 software update (with DAE Powermix), all documentation and manuals. This software uses a Powermac for 8 tracks of simultaneous 16 bit digital audio playback, with great editing and mixing features. The Audiomedia 3 card gives 2 tracks of digital and analog I/O with very nice A-D's. For full specs check out Digidesign's website at www.digidesign.com. Lemme know if anyone's interested. Thanks, Tim Story FWD>>>>> Looping with Protools has been like a revelation to me, too. No, it is not a real-time process, but the system has become so good that it is prety intuitive to pull off clean loops fairly quickly in the studio. A few musicians and myself are putting together a broad range of "dancable soundscapes" using bits of very long jams that we then assemble into fairly structured tunes. This is by no means revolutionary, as this has been the driving force behind a number of "dance" projects, most notabably for me Amon Tobin and Bill Laswell's "Material," (not to mention that Teo Macero was doing this with Miles in the late 60s!) however Protools makes doing this sort of thing dead easy. No cutting tape, no bouncing down, no guess work. And if you don't like the results, just undo them and find something that works better. The studio I work in has recently aquired a HUI and I must say, for any Protools owners out there, you MUST get this box (or Digi's forthcoming ProMix). You can get rid of your mouse, you could even get rid of your monitor (though a monitor is still really nice to have). The HUI allows you quick access to all plugins and just about every aspect of Protools that you would want to control. Finding insert and loop points is way too easy thanks to the jog/shuttle dial. We generally start with a drum beat. Several of the musicians I work with play drums, and someone will just jump into the booth and play some patterns for about half an hour. We'll all sit down with this raw material, pick something that is both groovy and a little twisted and loop that. Someone will lay down a bass line which will also be looped, and we just go from there. We'll lay in found sounds, free jazz jams, analog synth weirdness, etc. For one tune, we have even settled on a B3/guitar unison line that is being ram-roded on top of a 4 bar rhodes vamp that was looped in realtime using an Echoplex. Loops with in loops within loops. Protools has definatly changed my life and the way I make music. If you have a fat trustfund, you really must pick a system up.