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At 11:27 PM -0700 8/26/98, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: >Sounds like a bunch of folks wrapping themselves in the term Fair Use, as >if, once someone else creates an original work, anyone has the right to >use >it as they see fit, as if all defaults to the public domain, as a result >of >publishing. well Stephen, you still don't seem to understand what Fair Use is. But you are absolutely right, I am completely wrapping myself in the principle of Fair Use, which is a well established legal concept in use all over the world. So, I challenge you to unwrap me! Except this time, try using things like evidence, references, actual legal theories, credible, substantiated arguments, the actual law as written, consistent logic, etc. You know - actually research what you are saying before you say it. So far, all I've gotten from you boils down to "I don't like it, so it's bad." But there's not been any substance underlying your opinion. I'd love to hear a well-reasoned, non-emotional argument based in actual law and legal theory for why Negativland's (and my) interpretation of the copyright laws is incorrect, and proving your point that sampling is theft. Up to it? And sorry if this is boring the crap out of the rest of you. Drives me nuts when people state their opinions as facts and then try to use them as arguments....Plus debating this is like arguing with myself circa 1985, so it's sort of fun. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com