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>From Thomas: >>I think there is a distinction because audio-samples are the product ITSELF. If you sample 5 seconds from a CD you taken the WHOLE product. There is no distintion between your cd and your initial recording of the cd(the sample). You can`t compare that to cutting out a piece of a poster because a poster is not "viewed" the same way as a 5 minute song. A corner of a a Picasso painting doesn`t do the same for the whole "collage-painting" that , say , a Steve Gadd-groove does for a song. Even if you sample someting which is NOT a part of a groove it`s still more than a small part of the whole.<< Now that's an interesting element I hadn't thought of... For my own work and other peoples' work I listen to, the sample is rarely looped and expanded to base a whole composition on, that is, a groove or extended background soundscape. Usually it's literally a "corner" of the whole piece. A five second sample lasts 5 seconds and that's it, usually for me, so I hadn't thought about the loop aspect. Maybe an additional distinction that must be taken into account is the actual USAGE of the sample. Waitaminnit - that sounds pretty obvious....back to work!