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In a message dated 8/27/98 4:03:55 PM Central Daylight Time, robm@nytimes.com writes: << But the chems are well within the law in what they do as they haven't used any of the _audio_ from the original track. >> Just a couple more pieces of food to chew on... sample and rights related.... - in one of the first articles I ever read, in Musician magazine, that addressed this subject, one hip-hop producer talked about having a hard time securing the rights to a part of the guitar line to "Dear Mr. Fantasy"... so he just got a studio session player and had him come up with a guitar line that resembled but was not "D.M.F." and used that instead.... - Eddie Van Halen, when being shit on about "Right Now" being used in a beer commercial or some such enterprise, responded that if he didn't liscense the song, the beer company would just hire session musicians to record a sound- alike version, pay the (pittance) royalty associated with covering the song, and VH would get nothing, compared to what they got for the use of the song. (Come to think of it, portions of that song appeared on the soundtrack to "The Wild Life", years before, under a different title... maybe we should get him for "sampling" from himself....) - there's a (possibly local) Ford ad that uses a carbon copy of the 311 song "Beautiful Disaster"... only a slightly different guitar line (descending here instead of ascending there...little changes). I wonder what the price difference was between coming up with a soundalike versus liscensing the song? No great moral here, just some more tidbits to digest (or maybe just more mud for the waters.....) - Bill Crossedout@aol.com