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>Here's an example: Let's say I start messing around with someone else's >riff or tune on guitar. As I play it, I start altering the notes, the >accents, what have you. After a few minutes, I've come up with a >different (maybe a wildly different) riff. Now, am I obligated to seek >out the composer of the work I started playing and ask their permission >to release the end result that I came up with, even if it's >unrecognizable from the original source of inspiration? No of course not. But now you are not using the audio(= hard work) of the original. That`s the only thing copyright can protect: the final product. IF your riff sounds nothing like the original then what`s the problem? That what the law says (in effect). But if you sample the riff you`d obviously SOUND like the origanal and his work will be yours. And that`s wrong. I feel. In my opinion. Gimme a hug. Yors , Thomas