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hi graigory - i use a panasonic 7502 4x8 w/a mac. it came bundled w/toast which i feel is somewhat weak; i'll be getting jam soon. it seems to me tht there are better burning programs for pc than for mac. *does anyone have suggestions for mac based burning software????* i have not been impressed w/the stand alone cd burners, more expensive blanks limited to real time burning only it's less expensive hardware-wise, though. i've been *real* impressed w/smart & friendly burners, but i can't afford one right now.