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eric potter wrote: > I'd like to hear anything about using the older Digitech stuff for > looping, particularly the RDS-8000, RDS-3.6 sec. and the RDS-1900. I've > been offered one or more of these in a long-distance trade, but I've > never tried them. These days I use a Jam Man and a Boomerang. I'm not at > all afraid of lo-fi situations, in fact I'm looking for a tool for the > gritty extremes. The time machine series has a number of generations in it. the earlier ones are more noisy (not nescessarily gritty - just noisy) and came be identified by their large grey buttons that stick out of the front pannel and black with blue lettering design. Next came two series of balck units with blue lettering and flatter square buttons. These units were a little quieter and started to stretch out the times some more (ie: this series introduced the 7.6 second delay) and the 2nd series added a manual trigger button. Finally there was the white/grey design and this had the 8 second delay with all the trimmings. As a sound processor I think these things are amazing. I use my 3.6 sec (mid period) delay all the time for almost everything live. It can stutter a sound, do the roboflange, and catch a loop and destroy it with the built in width which acts as an LFO. Really freaky stuff. As a straight looper it's a bit limited though. You can easily set the time manually and warp the loop with the front pannel knobs but there's not much chance of layering (at least not in the EPD or Jamman sense) and you can't play something backwards or anything like that. Still it is a wonderful piece and fairly inexpensive these days. oddly enough I've used an 8 second and decided to stick with my 3.6 as it prompts me to do more with the sound that a straight loop in order to make it interesting. YMMV but overall I say the time machines are killer pieces. All the loops on my latest live album were done feeding a pitchshifting tape recorder into the time machine. It does *insane* things. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more.