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For a while I've been working on the design for a performance-oriented MIDI looper, since there are a lot of interesting possibilities that can't be done with audio (e.g. successive loop iterations are played through different patches). One neat idea I had would be to arrange the delay to go 'backwards', with successive echoes louder, until they reached a maximum volume and disappeared. This would allow one to do the traditional "add-new-material as old material is fading out" sort of looping, but with a radically different feel. Just to be different. Now, you could do this with digital audio and a very long delay with a lot of multi-taps, but that doesn't sound very easy to arrange. So, then I was thinking, though, if you just recorded a "normal" evolving lopo forwards and played it backwards, it would have a similar effect, except the notes themselves would be backwards. This then led me to the crucial clever idea of doing the same thing that is done for backwards echo in the studio: record the material forwards, play the tape backwards while adding echo, and then play the whole thing forwards. This has problems since you don't know how it's going to come out in the end, and performed-layered-looping kind of requires this, so I hacked around it as follows: setup up the looper however you want it. Record your material, played through the looper, but only record the pre-looped signal. When done, flip the tape, run the loops on the recorded mateirla backwards, *without changing any looper settings*. This roughly guarantees that the matieral will sync up backwards the same as it did forwards. (Note, though, that you can't really do anything clever, like multiplying). So, a few months ago, I played around with it. It was kind of cool, but I wasn't that inspired at the time, so I put the idea away for a rainy day as 'something cool to play with later'. The other day I was listening to Fripp & Eno's "Evening Star". Seems it's *not* a very original idea after all. Sean