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dennis, I haven't got a VG8 but do have a Roland GR1 guitar synth. I think the key to flexibility is to utilise a good mixer, one with as many effect send as possible. With two outputs to process ( guitar + synth ) you use two input channels ( or 3 if the vg8 has stereo outs ) Now the signals are in the mixer , where they can be routed via the fx sends to various effects units. If you return the fx to other mixer inputs then these signals can be sent around again and out to another effect on another send ( or heard on the channel return ) Hence the usefulness of a mixer with many sends. NB: you really have to spend time on this, as feedback loops lurk everywhere ! It's probably the biggest 'my brain hurts' inducer involved with this setup, but the results can be very interesting. Unortunately you'll find most mixers come with only two fx sends, usually a pre and a post. Pre is better, as you don't have to hear the input ( dry guitar, or dry synth ) on that channel before you send it out again. A post signal has to have the channel fader up before it goes post, so you can't hide that channels output. In order to hear the results of all this processing, the final output goes stereo out to a power amp and speakers ( or the inputs of a DAT etc ). Big setup ! A very good source of ideas on using a mixer and effects is the David Torn video ( number 2 ). Studying this and thinking how I could adapt my equipment to dt's ideas has given me many hours of experimentation to puzzle over. Many people on this list use mackie 1604 mixers. I've been using a tascam 688, which has the ability to send to 4 effects, and a handy little digital display ( 'scenes' ) to map the signal routing - but the 688 isn't really a gigging option, as it's huge.. Another useful aid is some kind of speaker emulator/load device which can take the output of your guitar amp straight to the mixer. This means you won't hear anything until long after you've processed it. Getting really gear frenzied now, a simple A/B box after your guitar signal where A goes to the 'silent' guitar amp and B goes to a 'heard' guitar amp means you can build a loop, switch to B and play over whatevers coming out of the mixer. I'm off now to get a life. hope this helps At -----Original Message----- From: ur eye [SMTP:ureye@hotmail.com] Sent: 19 October 1998 02:45 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: VG-8 or 2112 Ok, this may seem like comparing oranges & apples but.... I'm trying to choose between these. Does anyone have any comments regarding just the parts you can compare? Like the basic guitar timbre processing of the VG-8(or the synthesis there of?) I would especially like to hear from you folks who loop with a VG-8. Stuff like how you configure your loop setup w/ the unit. As a blossiming Guitar player/looper, I am ready to move up from my lowly SE-50 to a "real" guitar processor. I use a GR-50 also and get into adding a little something special to that core analog sound from my STRAT. That core sound is what impressed me about the Digitech 2112. On the other hand I like synthesized sound too so here lies my problem. Are the various pickup config patches on the VG reasonably comparable to the 'ol analog ways? Thanks, -Dennis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com