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The vortex is unique. It's a little odd. Stereo shows the best side of the device. No midi at all. Smooth hi-quality sounding stuff. It has multi-tap (2) capabilities, and good panning, trem., vibrato, resonator effects. There are 16 or so parameters to modify. There are 32 User defined sound areas (16A + 16B). Two second looping capbility if you set things a certtain way. These are plenty for me when compbined w/other effects.... The manual is pretty good at walking you around a unique and different device. Uses a wall-wart for power The Korgs have extensive midi control. Stereo would show the best side of these effects too. Manuals are short and could be much more helpful. They use an odd wall-wart (to my limited experience) -- where the "wart" is in the middle of a longer power chord. Good quality sounds too. AM - this is the one with the wider range of shape shifting effects I think (i don't have it, but this is what I've picked up...) Modulators, panning trem / vibrato, distortions. Also has reverbs. Seems to have lots of parameters to tweek. More wacky sounds (I'm guessing!). DL - this is the one with 10 secons mono -- or 4.8 seconds stereo looping. I have this just recently. Multi-tap capabilities (three per side L-R). Lots of patterns to the taps. Panning Chorus, flange, trem / vibrato. Lots of parameters to tweek. More of a "Delay." Delays can be synced with incoming signals. Would be way cool for keys and sequencers I think -- to really screw around w/tempos. Hope that helps. dk > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tidwell [SMTP:wedgehed@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 2:03 AM > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: DL/AM-8000 vs Vortex? > > Hi folks- > > I've found a source that promises me a new (meaning > never opened or used) Vortex for $300. Now I'm seeing > letters about the two Korg products along with descrip- > tions of being Vortex-like. If memory serves, I think > the Korgs are selling for under $350. Would anyone > care to offer their .02 as to which one to buy, & why? > > I presently own an EDP w/50 sec (soon to be 3 min) of > delay. I also have a Digitech 2112 & a 2101 Artist. > I usually use the EDP to loop distorted or clean sounds > from the 2101 & then let the 2112 provide stereo/pan/ > phase effects to the loops. > > I'm intrigued by all of the comments over the years > about the Vortex, but was completely unaware of the > Korg products until the recent letters. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > > > > > > == > John Tidwell > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com