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Very good point. However, as far as this point goes, I'd like to bring up another one. Especially in the rock'n'roll world, people are used to the guitars, bass, drums "concept set," with piano and synths thrown in for good measure; however, when was the last time a band with instruments *other than those mentioned above* did well for a sustained period of time? I think maybe a hit here and there, but I believe no instrument outside of those in the "concept" has been successful in becoming part of the common "concept" set. What I mean is, there is a certain bias against anything that is not in the "rock'n'roll concept," as it were, anything "alien." When considering looping another instrument in the modern musician's arsenal, I think it's worth to also think of the "common" instruments people are accustomed to hearing. And, as someone else said, what about classical looping, heavy-metal looping, country looping? I see a duality here between the instruments being used for looping purposes and the very nature of looping as being another instrument. This might get really confusing to John and Jane, or Tom and Helen, whoever they are. On the other hand, when was the last time in 1975 that people foresaw the ugly dolls children play with nowadays? Or, in the heady days of the summer of 1967, did anybody foresee the amount of violence in the tele and cinema in this day and age? There is still hope the Looping instrument will become part of the rock'n'roll, or popular, world. -----Original Message----- From: dan sumner [mailto:permadan@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday 09 January 1999 5:45 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Looping Catching on? Fellow Musicians, I feel that this is a good point to throw in my 2cents worth. Do you really think it necessary that looping catch on with the listener? To me, that seems as ridiculous as a particular surgical instrument catching on with the patients. We're musicians and we should be asking our gracious listeners to accept our music, not our technique. Dan Sumner