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And in addition The one I have was a pig to set-up - juggling the bridge height Vs. tension for the whammy and the locking mechanism which still allows just a tad too much play. And a neck like a baseball bat... But... It coped with an open-air gig half way up a mountain in Norway during a fierce down-pour and does have an intriguing array of its own tones, even if, as Bill says, none are especially Steinbergeresque. So, like most "budget" guitars, some are good, and some are just destined to travel to my parents-in-law for the weekend 4 times a year (OK and Norway once in a lifetime). David <http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/or387751> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Hohner/Steiny Copy question... Author: "Bill Appleton" <bappleton@hciww.com> at Internet Date: 12/01/99 09:47 I have one of the Hohner steinberger copies (the guitar, I think they make a bass also). The tone is entirely different from a real steinberger guitar. The pickups are cheapo "emg licensed" pickups and the body is made of wood. All that said, its a pretty good guitar in its own right. The hardware is pretty good, the tone is OK (maple neck thru), and the playability is good for a sub-400 dollar guitar. I bought mine as a cheap travel guitar and it has done pretty well in that role. Pros: Looks like a steinberger, low cost, lightweight, travel-ready, low-noise pickups, single coils (s/s/h config) work well with ebow, versatile tone knob and pickup switches, nice bridge and whammy bar, uses cool double ball end strings. Cons: Doesn't sound like a steinberger, weak pickups, uses double ball end strings. Bill Appleton -----Original Message----- From: andre <andre@monmouth.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 5:32 PM Subject: Hohner/Steiny Copy question... >Hey > >any one have experience withe the HOHNER steinberger copies??? any pros >and >cons?? they seem to be sanctioned by steiny, their logo is on there.... > >thanx >