Re: a few other thoughts- no loop content

[Mister McKnight <gonzo@blkbox.com>]

What are the musical rules to avant garde music? I'm afraid I just
don't know what this is...


At 10:41 AM 1/18/99 EST, you wrote:
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><< > "The trouble with avant garde music is that it has lost its original
> >  meaning and
> >  now has as many rules and clichés as country or rock & roll. If in 50
> >  years
> >  time they will look back at the early 1980s, or whenever, and say that
> >  was the
> >  new avant garde era, that event must be avoided if we are to remain
> >  true"
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>< I don't get this statement... what was the original meaning?  There is 
>great
> music being done right now that is devoid of any cliches or rules... if 
>you
> dont wanna call it avant-garde, then call it something else.  I'm sure 
>the
> musicians won't care what you call it!>
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>Avant Garde?  I'd have to say that the 'free improvised' music I have 
>seen 
>recently has been somewhat predictable in terms of the structure of 
>the pieces, the way in which the players interact, and much of the 
>content of the individual players. Although I've seen a couple of soloists
>to whom this doesn't apply.
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>Seems to me it's possible to be 'avant garde' without being an innovator.
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>Is it possible to have music without rules? Perhaps the interest lies in
>the way the rules mutate.
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>How many times does a loop go round before it gets to be
>a cliche.
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>Andy Butler  
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