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Greg had some nice ideas with the dual loop technique, especially for mixing tempos. It's a great system. I found a similar technique was also great for creating some wild stereo panning. In the 80s I was in a band called Delay Tactics. A song from our second album (Any Questions?) features what we called "Duel Delay Technique". To set this up we synched two EH 16 second delays together. Then we fed a panable stereo line from the mixer to each unit - one received the left channel, the other received the right. The channel outputs the from each unit, again left and right, were fed back to the mixer. As a result, once the delays were rolling, we were able to create panable repeating stereo loop tracks. For instance, using a 4 second delay while recording a guitar track, the engineer could pan the guitar around the stereo field at will. The same panning movement would sweep across at every 4 second repeat. With up to 100 layers for an entire song, the textures got pretty interesting. It was a nice alternative to the traditional bouncing or mono drone delay techniques. I'm enjoying everyone letters. Keep up the great work! Carl Weingarten