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I hear an awful lot about this little thing. about how much do they run for now adays? is anybody selling one? for that matter is anybody selling a vortex. i will have to agree with Bryan in his dual loopness mail that it would be great to see/read more loopers talking about their 'techniques'. it would be very informative to the pro and novice alike since most musicians(whatever that means)approach their instrument(loops)in their own little esoteric way. rodrigo