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Off topic of course, but just sent this list to a friend & thought it might also be of use to our illustrious listmembers: Here's sources for some Mac music software, almost all of it freeware/shareware-- Harmony Central is THE place to buy & sell gear, but has a lot of other good stuff too. Get these two thru Harmony Central (http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac/): Pedalfects- like eight stompboxes. It's usable realtime, but to save stuff you must register for $100--probably too much. Can get pretty wild, though. SoundMaker (demo) This is a really nice stereo sound editor with loads of effects which competes with the $500-700 programs, but sells right now for $30! Ordered mine! These two are "manglers"; AIFFs in, strangeness out: thOnk_0+2: http://www.audioease.com Argeiphontes Lyre: ftp://shoko.calarts.edu/pub/akira/al.sit.hqx ReBirth (demo): http://www.propellerheads.se Try the demo, lots o' fun. The best $160 I ever spent, and my main impetus to go all-software. ConvertMachine: http://www.kagi.com/rod This is cool; it will take nearly any form of soundfile and convert to different formats. Since many of these programs spit out their own flavors, I use it to quickly make them all plain-vanilla AIFFs. Syd (software syth): http://www.thepalace.com/jbum/ Kind of neat but not real intuitive to use. Still, it's free.... Soundhack- http://music.calarts.edu/~tre "SoundHack performs various soundfile manipulations that have been previously unavailable on the Macintosh. SoundHack includes soundfile type conversion, spectral mutation, spectral dynamics processing, a varispeed/sample rate converter, soundfile convolution, ring modulation, the phase vocoder, a binaural filter and an amplitude analysis and gain change module." MetaSynth- http://www.arboretum.com By the guy who created Bryce, it makes music out of PICTs! Impressive; try the demo- but the real deal is about 200 bucks.... MaCthugha- http://www.afn.org/~cthugha Pretty cool audio-to-video, billed as "an oscilloscope on acid". If I were to perform again, I'd want to get another guy to run this from my sounds. And besides Harmony Central, here's another good source: http://www.musicandaudio.com/mac3.htm David Myers