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My first minidisc recorder was the Sony MZ1 (the portable that was the size of a housebrick and ran for an hour or so on the battery). Even though you should theoretically have been able to set up loops on it using the anti-shock memory as the loop buffer, in practice there was always a horrid little click or hiccough at the start/end point of the loop. It was great for recording loops for later use though. I've just gotten a Sharp MS701, and it has an optional mode for recording 148 minutes of mono sound - perfect for recording a couple of hours worth of playing wiith the JamMan (mono out !) and playing around with it later. - Tony