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When I added my little bit about the relative merits of ebay vs harmony central and mentioned that in my experience recycler was better than either I was only trying to give some helpful info. I wish I had discovered all these classified ad sites sooner. I'm just astounded that this thread devolved into the bizarreness it did. Well, I suppose a certain amount of that can be a spice for a forum that could get a bit too dry or technical sometimes, but I was on another list (that will remain un-named) a while back that was mostly off topic discussions and I finally got tired of these futile discussions and dropped out. As for why I like the recycler classified ads (in spite of the fact that paid subscibers get first pick) is that they have the most listings of anyplace. I recently got a virtually new nanocompressor for $65 and a mint AKG C1000s microphone for $100. There were several of each to choose from and I never found either one on harmony central. I also recently saw a jamman advertised for $50. A paid subscriber got that one and I then saw another one with memory upgrade for $350. The idea here is not to get another controversy going, but just to share useful info. I live at least 100 miles from any large music store and maybe more of you have various reasons for preferring to conveniently sift through huge databases looking for what you want rather than running around all over trying to find it. Anyway, you all have fun shopping for your gear in whatever manner you prefer and peace to you all. Peter