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Kim wrote: >Long ago, the telephone system was operated by > humans manually connecting > calls together at a switch board. Long ago, eh? You sayin I'm an old fart? Where I grew up (long ago) our phones plugged into the wall socket with a 1/4" phone plug (like your guitar). You could steal the plugs from your phone to fix guitar cords! If you don't mind bakelite! In those days, you were't supposed to own your own telephones. We had many, used surplus from an AM radio station. Carbon mikes and speakers. Nowdays, telephone line plugs are what? 4,6,8 pin, and guitar plugs are 13 pin (roland gk standard). Just don't step on, or plug in that 13 pin roland connector as roughly as you step on, or plug in your ancient phone plug, or it will fail. And don't pull your new telephone line cable with connector (j?) through a snag or that )%$#@ plastic locking arm will break off, and the connector won't stay in your phone anymore! Simple is often at least robust, and endures. Many simple things come from long ago. Those long ago, 2 conductor phone plugs, connect Kim's clever echoplex footpedal. I have a bakelite cased plugs on the (vintage cloth sheilded) cable to my EDP footswitch :-) But, you should see my midi controller. There I have an online operator, with a switchboard...... bret _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com