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Don't forget the Northern Africa (arabesque) double reeds. Talk about a nice buzzy sound! And real African marimbas usually have a paper-like covering over the resonator tubes which rattles like a kazoo. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: James Pokorny <j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Asian instruments >>Incidentally, the sounds of the sitar, kanun and other indian stringed >>instruments tend to be come less exotic when processed with modulation, >delay >>and filtering. Afterall, the sympathetic strings and and buzz timbres of >these >>instruments are really analog, accoustic versions of filtering, and >modulation >>trix. >>Consequently, I tend to utilize these timbres as is in my own loop based >>music... > > >I couldn't agree with you more. Between the specialized "buzzing" jawari >bridges and sympathetic strings (as well as the skin faces of instruments >like sarod, sarangi, and dilruba) the Indian instruments seem to have >incorporated pre-electronic "signal processing." Any additional effects >really do tend to mask their natural timbres. > >This brings up a point about "sound worlds" among the various musical >cultures throughout the world. In India there's a definite tendency towards >overtone-rich, twangy sounds that are generally considered undesirable in >western music (especially in classical music). At a sitar workshop I was >giving once, someone asked me "Why does your instrument sound like a bad >guitar?" This floored me! It does, when you think about it. But that's >a >sound quality which is pleasant to Indian ears. Similarly, in many >African >musical cultures, instruments are equipped with "sizzle mechanisms" such >as >cowrie shells, bottlecaps, jingling metal rings, etc. to add an extra >dimension to the overall sound of the instruments. Whereas in the western >tradition we've generally preferred clean and clear sounds from our >instruments. It's nice to see that this is changing, and that "noise" can >also be incorporated into music. I've even heard tell of Appalachian >musicians placing rattlesnake rattles inside their instruments to improve >the sound! > >It don't mean a thang if it ain't got that twang! > >Really enjoying the input of everyone on the list. > >James > >