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Kim, You never miss an opportunity to post condescending remarks about the Jam-Man. I don't think that I have a chip on my shoulder, nor any hostility towards the EDP. I am a consumer. I am free to make choices about what I use. I have no vested interest in either the Jam-Man or the EDP. I use the Sellon-upgrade o/s in my Jam-Man and It provides me with he ability to quickly try various arrangement ideas and actually have three channels to work with. I often send a stereo signal to the Jam-Man. I have found that the analog stereo dry path is invaluable. The ability to have three loops going in different stereo positions adds enough spaciousness to the output, so I don't particularly miss the ability to input in stereo. >I have to wonder, for what you are doing, why waste time with the JamMan >at >all? Seems like a lot of bother with limited memory, constrained I/O, lack >of U/I, and weird midi control. Why not use something like the Roland >SP-808? Or Acid on a laptop? Seems like those are much better suited to >it. I actually find the Jam-Man user interface quite streamlined and very fast to use. I previously posted my thoughts on Jam-Man/EDP vs software. The bottom line is that you don't need to take your hands off the instrument to work them. I have ACID and find that they don't allow the real time recording and looping required for un-interrupted creative flow. Too much editorial work involved. I do improv, all of these devices are designed for composing using pre-existing sound files. The device that really interests me is the Eventide DSP4000. A friend owns one, it has many amazing looping possibilities. ........................................................................... The moment of victory is much too short to live for that and nothing else. -Martina Navrtilova