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I work within the Eventide realm but not for sample looping per se, although it does have the sampling option. The Eventide is used merely for sonic distortion and manipulation as an end point of my looping chain. I program multiple delay effects/panning and reverbs to subtlely tweak the envelope even more.The nice thing is AES/EBU direct out into a Sony R-500 DAT . Steven J. Schreier Lucent Technologies Software Implementation Team San Diego, Ca. Voice: 619.874.1753 Fax: 619.874.1701 E-mail: schreier@lucent.com <mailto:schreier@lucent.com>