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Dennis said: >I'm drooling already! > >BTW, will the upgrade function with existing EDP hardware? yes, that is all it would be for. there isn't any hardware change happening soon. >Also, here's a unsolicited suggestion for a new feature. :) > >Many times I build a loop using MULTIPLY. I.e., I do the sequence: RECORD >(start), RECORD (stop), MULTIPLY (start), MULTIPLY (stop). So I have a >multi-cycle loop. Next, I want to manipulate the loop as if it were a >single-cycle loop. For example, the rate of the MIDI clock is different >if >the same length loop is composed of one cycle or multiple cycles. Also, >the >NEXT LOOP-MULTIPLY "lame-duck" period is longer with a loop composed of >one >cycle so I have enough time to do things before switching to the next >loop. > >To the chase: I'm requesting a function that merges a multi-cycle loop >into >a single-cycle loop. well this one's easy, cause it's already there! If you do a Multiply, and end it with a press of Record (instead of a second press of Multiply), you get exactly what you want. The multi-cycle loop is redefined to a single cycle loop. The length of the new loop will be however long it was between the Multiply and Record press. You can do this with a pre-existing, already multiplied loop. If quantize is on, the new loop will automatically be defined to a cycle boundary. If Quantize is off, you can redefine it to any point. This is also a great way to chop out sections of a loop or edit the loop length in real time. Here's an explicit example of what you want to do: - set quantize on - Record a short 2 second loop. - Press Multiply, let it get 4 multiples, and press multiply again. Now you have the original loop repeated 4 times in this new, 4 cycle, 8 second loop. now, lets convert it to a single cycle, 8 second loop that's 4 times longer than the original. In other words, take the 4 cycles and covert them to one cycle, without other wise changing the loop. - during the 4th cycle of the current loop, press multiply - you'll see the 'ooo' display that means its quantizing (waiting for the cycle boundary) - When cycle 1 starts, the echoplex starts multiplying automatically. - watch the counter, when it shows you are at cycle 4 again, press Record - it will again show 'ooo'. At the cycle boundary the Record executes, redefining the cycle length to that point. So now you have an 8 second, 1 cycle loop, with four repetitions of your original. This seems a bit complicated just for that, but think of all the power and flexibility it gives you otherwise! You can cut your loop back to 3 cycles or 1 cycle or extend it to 7 or 39 or whatever. You can chop out a section and make a loop just with that. You can easily fix the length in real time if its a little off, or if tempo from other musicians/samples has drifted. This is a great thing for making transitions and evolutions of the loop. If you have a long loop, it can be very slow to convert it to something else. So instead, chop out a much shorter piece of it to carry on the theme, and work with that to edit into something new. Try it! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com