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I know this is getting pretty far out in OT land, but I often notice (or maybe just lapse into a particular state) that when in a "noisy" environment such as a crowded restaurant, an effort can be made to treat all of the various sounds (snippets of conversations, clinks of glass and silverware, etc., at various frequencies) in a detached or homogeneous way. The result is a rather smooth cacophony that rises and falls with bits of recognizable verbage coming occasionlly to the surface. It takes a little effort to treat all of the sound sources in such an environment as totally equal with no intrinsic meaning in terms of language, etc., but the result is a very interesting and somewhat exhilarating, "sound collage" experience. This is probably brought on by many years of intense listening to music of various sorts (including my own) and probably fostered my current interest in some of the more ambient derivations of electronica by groups such as the Orb and FSOL. The point in all this? Uh, well.... Steve K. Douglas Baldwin wrote: > .....If I keep any loop on long enough (anywhere from a half hour to one >hour > or more), I have very pleasant audio hallucinations where EVERYTHING >sounds > like it's part of the loop AFTER the loop is turned off. LaMonte Young >kept > carefully tuned oscillators playing in his home for months at a time, >which > possibly would create a similar effect. Comments from others?