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Did this thread start with something to do with looping? Who cares? Its weird... Has any one had the experience while listening to something over and over like a rythmic loop, you start to concentrate on the gaps of silence in between the sounds and the rythum that they produce...hmm does this make sense? god it is easy to sound like a weirdo isnt it? MArk Francombe XXX Clifford Novey wrote: > > Man, you are definitely going crazy! > > No- kidding- actually you are blessed in noticing so many details in the > everyday things around you- sounds like a potential source of creative > inspiration! > > Cliff > > James Pokorny wrote: > > > Stephan said: > > > > >I often notice (or maybe > > >just lapse into a particular state) that when in a "noisy" >environment such > > as a > > >crowded restaurant, an effort can be made to treat all of the various > > sounds > > >(snippets of conversations, clinks of glass and silverware, etc., at > > various > > >frequencies) in a detached or homogeneous way. The result is a rather > > smooth > > >cacophony that rises and falls with bits of recognizable verbage >coming > > >occasionlly to the surface. It takes a little effort to treat all of >the > > sound > > >sources in such an environment as totally equal with no intrinsic >meaning > > in > > >terms of language, etc., but the result is a very interesting and >somewhat > > >exhilarating, "sound collage" experience. > > > > > >This is probably brought on by many years of intense listening to >music of > > >various sorts (including my own) > > > > I think we're getting back into the realm of "loop religion" here! >I've had > > similar experiences where I tend to zone out by intensely >concentrating on > > and/or suddenly becoming aware of all the surrounding sounds. I >realize > > that this is recommended within Buddhism as an exercise in centering >and > > focus. I'm no student of Buddhism, but I always liked this idea, at >least > > in theory. And I believe that this was the basis of John Cage's > > experimental "composition" called 4'33" (performer sits behind >instrument > > and remains silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds -- the point being >that all > > the ambient sounds of the hall [papers rustling, throats clearing, >overhead > > fans whirring, etc.] ARE the music.) > > > > But to be honest, I get a little frightened when I realize that I've >been > > driving on an expressway at 75 mph with the windows down and enjoying >the > > "musical content" of vehicles rushing by in the opposite lanes, horns > > honking, all the pings and buzzes that emanate from my dashboard, etc. > It > > makes me think -- OK, it's great that I can think of this as "music" >-- but > > I should be concentrating more on my driving! I wouldn't want the > > performance to end with squealing brakes and crunching metal. > > > > A month or two ago I was walking down several flights of stairs in my > > building at work. The steam pipes starting hissing and giving off a >fairly > > strident, screechy sound. But then a second tone arose, quickly >followed by > > a third. Despite the unpleasant texture of the hiss, the resulting >chord > > was really quite lovely. It made me wonder how often this sort of >thing > > occurs. I had the idea that I'd wind up sneaking away from my desk and > > spending hours loitering in the stairwell waiting for it to happen >again. > > But common sense prevailed and I haven't started this practice. Yet. > > > > A rather more pleasant experience occurred last week. I woke up at >about > > 4:30 in the morning because all the birds outside my window were >waking up > > (these birds are LOUD). Usually when this happens I get angry since >it's > > hard to get back to sleep for another hour until they calm down, which >is > > when I'm getting up anyway. But this one morning I sort of slowly >drifted > > into wakefulness, suddenly realizing that each different bird was >singing > > it's own "looped" melodic pattern, which would come around again and >again. > > There must have been six or seven different species of birds, because >there > > was a real sense of order -- one "loop" running and interacting with > > another, some moments of silence, more "loops" entering, etc. It was >a very > > full sound altogether, and also much more soothing than I'd ever >thought > > possible. I had always regarded the use of bird sounds in recorded >music as > > being extremely trite, but this was music enough in itself and didn't >need > > any human interaction (except for the listening). I don't know that I >would > > ever have come to this realization if I hadn't been involved in >looping. > > > > So I'm having somewhat of a dilemma here -- am I evolving as a >listener to > > the point where random sound can be as pleasant and meaningful as > > "structured" music, or am I just losing it big time? > > > > James -- \ -\ --\ ---\ ----\ -----\ ------\ -------\ --------\ ---------\ ----------\ -----------\ ------------\ mark-red-----\ --------------\ ---------------\ work------------\ -----------------\ in2win------------\ -------------------\ multimedia-designer-\ ovre-slottsgate-5----\ 0157-oslo-------------\ tlf.--22-40-29-94------\ fax--22-42-14-24--------\ e-mail--mark@in2win.com--\ web--http-//www.in2win.com\ ---------------------------\ ----------------------------\ personal---------------------\ tlf.-22-43-10-79--------------\ mob.-91-56-99-88---------------\ mark@8day.com-------------------\ christine@8day.com---------------\ ----------------------------------\ -----------------------------------\ redweb------------------------------\ http-//www.8day.com/redweb-----------\ --------------------------------------\ ---------------------------------------\ icq-4531031-----------------------------\ -----------------------------------------\