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I think this is at the heart of this "concept" (an intellectualization in itself?); it's kind of a burdon being lifted feeling, if you will. The suspension of the constraints of attaching some kind of value or definition to aural, as well as other, events is central to the attractiveness. Like a psychological coffee break. Casteneda would call it suspending the internal dialog. What does this have to do with looping? Er...uh..., oh yea, you could record the ambient sounds inside that restaurant on a portable DAT and feed them into your looper.... yea, that's the ticket. Seriously though, I think this is fundamental to the attraction of looping; using "pieces" of sound in a different and consistently changing context. To my mind, that's as valid a musical concept as recurring themes played on various instruments (sort of). Steve Cincinnati Dennis W. Leas wrote: > Some John Cage quotes: > ............I begin to hear the old sounds - the ones I had thought worn >out, > worn out by intellectualization - I begin to hear the old sounds as >though > they are not worn out. Obviously, they are not worn out. They are just >as > audible as the new sounds. Thinking had worn them out. And if one stops > thinking about them, suddenly they are fresh and new. 'If you think you >are > a ghost you will become a ghost.'............