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> > by the definitions of hypnosis the depth of the trance state is related >to one thing: effortless concentration. this very simialar state is also >reffered to as no mind in some asian cultures. to achieve this state one >must be RELAXED. no ego. no mind. no worries. when you catch it it is >a beautiful thing. i agree i've experienced THE feeling playing and >listening. thinking about that exeprince makes me think: public >performance was not in the mix. usually it involved playing With >musicians i've played with a long time or alone...but never in front of >a crowd. most of the time i'm thinking about what can go wrong and being >self critical of each note i pick. that is a different feeling >altogether for me.....comments?......jp > John, I wouldn't have a clue as to what the state of relaxed attention feels like if I drew exclusively from my performing experience. Like practicing a riff, it's something I TRY to bring forth in performance, having experiened it elsewhere. But as in daily life, if in performance the primary thoughts are "what can go wrong and being self-critical..", then things will go wrong and you will blame yourself for them. I am way off the loop here, perhaps we should continue this discussion elsewhere. Which reminds me, are there any other newsgroups/sites which discuss both practical and spiritual/metaphysical aspects of music performance?