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I would say I experience something like you're describing often when I listen a disc or record and I'm totally immersed in the experience of listening -- and then there comes this silence between tracks... A very cool "I'm still in this, but just hanging up here as time flows by" kind of feeling. No drugs necessary. David Kirkdorffer UNDO -----Original Message----- From: mark [mailto:mark.francombe@in2win.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 3:58 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: It just goes... Daniel, yes, of course, good point (MR PEDANT) but I was really thinking of the idea that the gaps BECOME the music and the music becomes the gaps... I think that I have only had this experience when listening to loops, because it takes time for your brain to turn the sounds "inside out" rather like the optical illusion of the two human profiles that become a candle stick when you concentrate on the ares between the faces...