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all this talk of looping stretching time.. how about time stretching your loops! in return for some great recent 'texter patches from Andy, thought i'd share where i've been spending a number of hours recently (no drugs involved apart from sleep deprivation): A : reflexion A B : deja vu B mix 40 64 output 64 64 mod fx 1 20 echo fx ped 64 morph 5 50 env 64 ped echo1 3 2 echo2 2 2 fb1 60 64 fb2 32 1 rate1 8 8 depth1 60 28 res1 1 45 rate2 50 50 depth2 64 48 res2 64 28 really need the pedal to get the most out of this i guess... start off in A... i like to avoid loud attacks and use the pedal very slowly... a steady down press will bring in the echoes (echo fx controls the inputs to the delays in the reflexion preset)... initially a quivering atmospheric effect resolving to a slightly pitch bent short cycle delay... pedal toe-up lets the echo fade out naturally while you play over the top. keep the knob pointing at feedback 1 so you can be ready to "loop" or "kill" the short delay... sustaining something and varying its volume while the pedal is toe-down produces some interesting quiet quivering flange type thingies embedded in the thick echo... various effects are possible when morphing to B, which is a looper with the quivering rate 50 theme in the background... with the "straight" A delay cycling away and no input signal present, morphing to B with the pedal toe-up will (usually - according to the tap length) triple the length of the loop---and half will be what was in echo 1, the other half will be a "gap" (usually with some soft phasey sounding stuff in it)... if there is material input during the morph with the pedal toe-down, a mutated bent version of the input will occupy the second half of the B loop... try input with toe-up etc (yeah.. like i need to tell you guys to experiment ;) enjoy! brad